A nation of bludgers.

Regular commenter Mark T commented on my post yesterday on the changes to the 457 visas in Australia.

If foreign immigrants are being employed as taxi drivers, service station attendants, hospitality workers, and hairdressers; then it’s generally because they are doing the job better than what locals could, or for a wage lower than what locals would accept. It’s a well known truism amongst NZ private sector employers that for certain jobs (particularly those requiring hard physical work), the work ethic and trustworthiness of foreigners is generally far superior to what you get from Kiwis – if you can even find a Kiwi even wanting to take the job. Their presence benefits not only the employer but the economy generally.

Before I could respond another regular commenter Mr Black chimed in with his take.

And again we see the corrosive and poisonous effect of a welfare state, removing incentives or even the need for work.

Exactly. The first commenter is not alone in this delusion but like so many he is mistaking a symptom for a cause. The reason that so many Australians and Kiwis are not prepared to work is because under our most generous welfare states they simply don’t have to. They are not hungry. I have spoken about welfare before.

There used to be a stigma attached to welfare. It was a shameful thing to admit that you were receiving financial support from your fellow citizens. Remember that – from your fellow citizens, not the government.

So we roll out a stupidly generous welfare state and when employers have trouble finding people motivated to work the government solves this problem by creating another one, namely allowing in hundreds and thousands of people who do not share our culture, nor our political viewpoints, nor our way of life.

People need to remember that it was not very difficult finding people to work 40 years ago. Nor was it particularly difficult to find work. With the rise of the welfare state that has gradually changed. Globalism is a response to the problems that the welfare state has created, but in turn it offers no solutions but only even more problems.

The other reason that governments love to solve perceived population issues by bringing in foreign workers is because they receive an immediate tax benefit. If a nation’s citizens have babies then the government does not see a taxable income from those babies for 18 years if not longer.

These problems are all interconnected and they stem from the welfare state. It is the right move for the government to crack down on these 457 visa clowns but it is also critical to understand that the skills shortage will only be solved internally when people are motivated to go out and find a job. Until that happens then we will continue to be a nation of bludgers.

8 thoughts on “A nation of bludgers.

  1. David Moore

    ” It’s a well known truism amongst NZ private sector employers that for certain jobs (particularly those requiring hard physical work), the work ethic and trustworthiness of foreigners is generally far superior to what you get from Kiwis – if you can even find a Kiwi even wanting to take the job.”

    It is also true that the correct response is for wages to rise for these hard, physical, jobs to address this shortage and make them more attractive. Having a ready supply of cheap labour prevents this.

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  2. MarkT

    I’m not suffering any delusions nor mistaking symptoms for causes. I realise the welfare state and the Millenial sense of entitlement explains the poor work ethic amongst locals. They are lucky enough to be born into one of the best and safest places in the world, but many have little appreciation for the opportunities they have. So I accept all that, but why does that mean we should deny the opportunity for good keen foreigners to show them up, and stop employers engaging who they need to do their businesses remain functioning? Why would we want to deny this opportunity to good keen foreigners so that lazy local losers can have it easy? And more to the point, by what right do we deny the right of businesses to employ who they want to? David Moore proposes just raising wages for locals, which effectively means propogating the welfare state – not winding It back. Herein lies one of the many contradictions of the alt-right.

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    1. Michael

      What’s stopping those “good keen foreigners” from doing this in their own country, thereby improving not only Australia, but also their own country?

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      1. David Moore

        One of the great risks of immigration is that by allowing the motivated and skilled to immigrate to wealthier countries, there are fewer in the source country able to improve it and move it up the wealth scale.

        Mexico is a prize example, their major export industry is moving their harder workers to the US and getting US$ back. This means Mexico can carry on being a corrupt shithole. There is little movement for change in Mexico. Because of this US safety valve, the ambitious who are not connected enough to progress in Mexico can leave, instead of creating change or revolution.

        I’m not arguing for or against immigration (I’ve lived in a dozen countries over the years), but you do need to be rational about the impacts of it on all sides.

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    2. David Moore

      “David Moore proposes just raising wages for locals, which effectively means propogating the welfare state – not winding It back. Herein lies one of the many contradictions of the alt-right.”

      Why do you twist what I’m saying? I have proposed nothing. What I’m saying, clearly, is that markets respond to inputs. If you allow unskilled immigration, then wages will fall. If you reduce the supply of labour and demand remains high, then wages will rise.

      If you want to wind back the welfare state, how about reducing superannuation and increasing the retirement age. Good luck with that one….

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  4. RS

    Here is the question I’ve never had answered by pro-immigration types: why should we then balance our lifestyle on the backs of brown people? It’s amazing how uncomfortable leftists get when you connect their cheap lettuce to exploitation of immigrant populations.

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