Uganda orders arrest of American citizen living in New York for the crime of homosexuality.

Last week the US government organised for the arrest of a Chinese national while she was transiting through Vancouver international airport. The Canadians dutifully complied because what else would they do when they’re told what to do by their betters? The individual arrested just happens to be the CFO of Huawei, Meng Wanzhou. She was arrested for something to do with US sanctions.

Although now released on $10 million bail, she still faces extradition to a New York City courtroom, where she could receive up to thirty years in federal prison for allegedly having conspired in 2010 to violate America’s unilateral economic trade sanctions against Iran.

Ms Wanzhou is a Chinese national of some importance. She was not on a trip to the US at the time. But she has been arrested for breaking US law. The question that I have is this – since when did US law become international law applicable to any citizen of any country at any time that the US chooses is convenient?

Since the end of the Cold War, the American government has become increasingly delusional, regarding itself as the Supreme World Hegemon. As a result, local American courts have begun enforcing gigantic financial penalties against foreign countries and their leading corporations, and I suspect that the rest of the world is tiring of this misbehavior.

Back in my home country of Australia there is an old saying as regards to getting unexpectedly busted – ignorance of the law is no excuse. It’s usually a fair cop, but when this is extended to foreign nations it seems a bit Empirish in a Star Wars sense if you see what I mean and I think you do.

Let us know consider the curious case of Julian Assange. US brings new charges against Julian Assange in war logs, State cables case.

Prosecutors are bringing a slate of new charges against Julian Assange, including alleged violations of the Espionage Act, raising the stakes for his prospective extradition from the United Kingdom.

A grand jury in Northern Virginia has returned a superseding indictment with 17 more charges against the WikiLeaks founder that follow an earlier case brought against Assange in connection with the alleged help he gave to Chelsea Manning to compromise U.S. government computer networks.

Assange is being charged for what officials call his “alleged complicity in illegal acts” involving Manning and “for agreeing and attempting to obtain” information that compromised national security.

Excuse me for my obvious legal naivety since nobody else is talking about this matter, but how on earth are these charges applicable to Assange? He is not an American citizen. He was not on US soil at the time of the charges. I expect based on this precedent that next they’ll be leveling the charge of treason at him. It would make about as much sense as any of those other 17 charges.

Assange’s lawyers don’t seem to give a toss about this aspect so maybe I’m barking up the wrong tree. But this has parallels with the Wanzhou case; how is it possible that US law is applicable to foreign nationals outside US territory? To call this an overreach is somewhat of an understatement. Somebody please enlighten me because last time that I checked there was no global court run by the USA.

If I have a serious legal point here then Julian, you owe me a few beers, mate.

19 thoughts on “Uganda orders arrest of American citizen living in New York for the crime of homosexuality.

  1. I agree that the charges against Assange are questionable at best and farcical as well. I will note that the charge of treason won’t happen because it’s components are outlined in the constitution and there’s no way they’d be covered by his actions. Treason is incredibly rare as a charge in the US, so rare that obviously treasonous actions by people like the Rosenbergs were never charged with it.

    On the case of the Huewai exec, the company does business inside the US. As an executive of the company she’s potentially criminally liable under US law for the actions of the company that violate US law. If Huewai did 0 business it would be a different story.

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    1. TechieDude

      So you fine the shit out of them, revoke their license to do business, tell any customer that if they buy that gear after this date, they will have a colonoscopy of and audit.

      You don’t arrest their people like a common criminal.

      Too much hut..hut..hut these days.

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  2. TechieDude

    I’m not sure, and too lazy to look up, But I’d guarantee that the the Huawei with footprint in the US is probably something like Huawei America. And, it probably has it’s own CFO. She is CFO of the whole corporation.

    That’s some shaky bullshit there. If the chicoms are allowing trade with Iran, you punish China, in a number of ways. But if Huawei is doing business allowed by China, the US not only has no case, but is in serious wrong detaining this woman.

    They also have no case against Assange.

    And do they really want to go there? He’s said repeatedly that the DNC hack wasn’t Russia. When I went on the site to size things up (Having been in NW security) my first impression was it wasn’t a hack. Someone (Probably a bernie-bot) walked out of HQ with a thumb drive. Years later, I read that’s the impression harder-core security guys have as well.

    The podesta email trove was a phish. Why these fools use Gmail with dumb passwords is beyond me. I’m not bothered a bit his shit is public.

    What I find astonishing is the level of corruption and self dealing, even collusion with the media hasn’t ruffled a single democrat feather.

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  3. Phil B

    I think China can come up with some creative and interesting offences against its laws to be applied to American businessmen visiting China.

    Not that they would retaliate in such a fashion. Dear me, no. Perish the thought! >};o)

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    1. They’ve already arrested at least one Canadian. They’ve also kept several US citizens that are of Chinese decent from leaving China. The US State Department has an alert for traveling to China for arbitrary enforcement of laws and harassment of people that hold dual US-Chinese citizenship.

      Of course being arrested in the US or Canada isn’t exactly the same thing as being arrested in China.

      https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-huawei-tech-meng/huawei-cfo-house-arrest-contrasts-with-canadians-detained-in-china-idUSKCN1SQ0C3

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  5. Klaus

    All good points you make, Adam. My irritation with this matter though, is (full disclosure: Australian citizen) that the Australian government aren’t making more of a fuss.

    Like you, I have no idea of the law but it seems to me that, at the very least, the Foreign Minister could say, “Yep, you go right ahead. But just so you know…we will be watching this very closely and we insist that Mr. Assange get his full rights.”

    I live in Germany. They’re a bit of a lapdog to the US but at least they had the balls to tell the US no, when it came to Nordstream 2.

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  6. Dave

    So let me get this straight – I sell stuff on Ebay…. worldwide.

    So some Iranian dude bids and wins one of my auctions…… he Paypals me and I post him his item.

    The US finds out and says I was not allowed to sell my Commodore 64 to him and applies to the Australian government for my extradition and I get jailed for 30 years.

    I’ve got nothing against the average heritage American in the street, who the fark does the US governing class seriously think they are.

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  7. Al Jahom

    Lefties in America imagine that it is Trump that is an international embarrassment, making their country look like a banana republic.

    It isn’t. It’s shit like this. Arrogant international totalitarian overreach. FATCA as another prime example.

    This is why it sticks in my craw when Clarey et al rip on how cucked and totalitarian the UK is. The UK is FAR from perfect, but the state is not all-powerful, arrogant, moronic and brutal here like it appears to be in the USA.

    This sort of thing is where the EU superstate is headed, and the USA ought to be a warning to anyone in Europe contemplating further federalism.

    Land of the free, home of the brave.. LOL.

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  8. Someone

    As an American and Trump supporter, I could not agree more with your comments. I would love to see Hildebeast in jail for her mishandling of classified documents or others who pass on secrets to the Chinese or our alleged allies like Israel.

    I would be more interested in hanging our criminal Congress where just about everyone of the them is millionaire on a $175k per year salary.

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  9. Liz

    Meng Wanzhou wasn’t just arrested last week, this happened months ago. She is charged with financial fraud, which is also a crime in Canada.
    Per Assange, I doubt the charges will stick for the fact that Bradass87 had his/her/it’s sentence commuted and is walking free now. But it’s worth noting that the Five Eyes (FVEY) nations have an intelligence alliance, so espionage against one is basically ipso facto espionage against all.

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  10. Dark

    I suspect *most* Americans are not down with this, just like most Americans don’t like to see us deploying our military all over the world and getting involved with other people’s issues. Most of us are like Dave.

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    1. purge187

      I’m one of those Americans.

      The Iraq War was a foreign entanglement clusterfuck right from the get-go. If Trump starts a war with Iran, then I’d probably even support AOC over him if she were the candidate.

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  11. “I expect based on this precedent that next they’ll be leveling the charge of treason at him.”

    The very last thing our Deep State wants to do is remind people that the crime of treason exists.

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    1. Not being a US Citizen, there is no ground for a charge of treason. There is a solid connection on a charge of espionage because of the info he got from Bradley Manning. If Assange is brought to teh US, he will likely go to prison for a very long time, unless some leftist moron is elected and wants to tweak the right and so hands him a pardon or commutation.

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      1. Not being a US Citizen, there is no ground for a charge of treason.

        That’s the entire point; you can’t charge someone with treason who is not a citizen. Likewise with all of the other charges that they’re throwing at Assange. It makes just as much sense for them to charge him with treason at this point.

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  12. “The UK is FAR from perfect, but the state is not all-powerful, arrogant, moronic and brutal here like it appears to be in the USA. ”

    Sure. Just ask Tommy Robinson, Tony Martin, or those arrested for “offensive” Facebook posts or tweets.

    I suspect you are getting most of your news from the British press or from CNN.

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